10
Sep
2008
Posted by Charles Heflin as Social Media Technology

We are in a technology bubble that’s about to bust and leave peoples’ time wasted like splattered paint on the floor. The moment that the mainstream realizes you don’t need to be involved in 10, 20, 30 (100?) social media platforms will be the moment the bubble will burst… It’s coming soon and hopefully this post will help speed up the process.
First there was Twitter … then there was other services kind of like Twitter. Your audience was already on Twitter but you decided to try Jaiku, Brightkite, Pownce, Plurk, Kwippy and Friend Feed too. Understandably so, we all have the need to see which services are most useful to us… No problem.
The problem comes in when you try to manage a community on each of these networks. The stroke of your paintbrush gets spread too thin and you begin to realize the whole point of all of this was to establish and develop relationships that lead to trust and then … “mind share” that leads to traffic, action, voting, sales, rankings, whatever.
That’s right, the whole purpose of social media is to develop relationships and to save and share content with people. There is no secret trick to social media… There is no magic bullet… No manner of automation will make a dent in this beast (you haven’t fallen for any lies have you) … It’s all about relationships… PERIOD!
With that said, do you really need to have a presence in every new technology that comes out?
I am sure you have seen profiles of people that have badges from every network you can think of like a well decorated General they brandish their badges with honor hoping to impress people with their “participation”. Are they really participating that much? Or does it just look cool?
If 80% of the micro-blog market already uses Twitter, do you need to network with those same people on Jaiku or Plurk? … NOPE! … It’s not efficient and it widens your brush stroke, thinning out the paint. If you can reach StephenColbert on Twitter then why do you need to reach him on Plurk too?
Some will argue that they need that other 20% of the micro-blog market so they build profiles on 9 different micro-blog sites under the illusion that they can build meaningful communities while being spread so thin at the same time. Reach is not about how many friends or followers you have, it is about how many “meaningful” relationships you can build and how many people are willing to give you a piece of their mind share.
I don’t care if you have 14,000 followers on Twitter, if you count the number of people that will give you their mind share or extend your reach then the number is probably more like 140. Social media is the greatest illusion creator of 2008. For some reason many people think this is a new phenomenon, a new egg that needs to be cracked … NOPE! … It is still all about two way communication and trust building in order to gain the mind share of your target audience… The same as its been for over a decade!
The bubble will burst the moment the mainstream reaches this understanding. Suddenly participation in the less popular networks will tank and die… Only the strongest will survive. Strength will be determined by market share…
Silly rabbit tricks are for fools … Don’t trick yourself into thinking you need to participate everywhere when most of your target audience is in a single place. Find the single place where most of your audience participates and then FOCUS on that single network and do it exceedingly well.
In reality, you only need to be active on very few social networks in order to extend your reach exponentially. If you create content that is Educational, Enlightening or Entertaining and share it with a single group of loyal friends and followers, gain their trust through quality, then THEY will extend your reach into other networks for you. They will extend your messages into all the places you thought you needed to be… This is the way social media was designed… If you are bookmarking and digging your own stuff then you need to do a 180 on your thinking about what social media is … the CROWD is supposed to do that stuff for you… silly rabbit.
If you are not focusing on relationships in social media (you link builder you) then all your effort and all your time will be sucked right into the (ticking time bomb) technology bubble, leaving your time wasted as collateral damage when it busts.
Focus on relationships and jump off of the technology train because it is about to derail and you don’t need to be on it. Lynn Terry has been telling us where the true value of social media lies… Is this where your brain is at? … It needs to be.
Are you a silly rabbit or have you reached the epiphany?
Which networks do you think will survive the big bust?
This has been part 5 of a multi-part series on using social media effectively to build a “real” business online. Here are the previous 4 posts that have led to this one.
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55 Responses
Alex Newell
September 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
1As usual Charles you hit the nail on the head. As far as “Are you a silly rabbit or have you reached the epiphany?” what can I say? A bit of each I think. I have not spread out far into the web2.0 sphere - I have a hard enough job keeping my blogs going and checking in with twitter every day or two.
Thanks for the lesson.
All The Best
Alex
Jon Muranko
September 10th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
2Charles,
Great post.. I agree, there are too many so called places “to be” to get any traction if you are trying to do it yourself. If I had to vote on one place for micro-blogging, I’d vote Twitter. But bottom line, it is about relationships.
Jon
http://www.muranko.com
Charles Heflin
September 10th, 2008 at 1:20 pm
3@Alex Newell - No worries, we have all been silly rabbits … I still am one in some cases but I’m working on cleaning up my act
We had to dig through hundreds of networks … testing each … looking for value, spending thousands of dollars on man hours to finally deliver the truth and we already knew the truth the whole time.
Charles Heflin
September 10th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
4@Jon Muranko - Yes definitely Twitter will survive the bust… they have the largest share on the micro-blogging market.
Ferny Ceballos
September 10th, 2008 at 1:48 pm
5What is also true is that there are many niche social communities, which will also survive and flourish, because they are not concerned with having the same market share, as facebook or youtube.
They are appealing to a particular type of person with a particular interest.
I made a name for myself and became financially independent, by being an active participant of a social network of 15,000 people for the network marketing industry. I didn’t need to hit up the big name social networks.
As long as you add value, and become genuine contributor to the community, you’ll do great.
Yes, a bit counterintuitive, I know… but it’s true.
-Ferny Ceballos
Mark M. Bravura
September 10th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
6Hello Charles,
Highest Kudos: In every sense of the word you are a true Visionary. Not so ironically, the bubble burst will happen hand-in-hand with Google’s most brilliant move ever.
I’ll put my money on Squidoo surviving.
They survived two major Google slaps earlier on (even got demoted to a PR 5 at one point); Seth worked closely with Google, and the rest is a mighty impressive testimony to building relationships.
Best regards,
Mark
Charles Heflin
September 10th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
7@Ferny Ceballos - you are right … niche communities will survive because they are useful to niche interests. Any community where participation survives will survive the bust. Thank you for commenting.
@Mark Bravura - Thank you for the kind words and I agree that Squidoo will survive because the community there is strong.
Justin Korn
September 10th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
8“Are you a silly rabbit or have you reached the epiphany?”
I was definitely a silly rabbit for a few few months, but quickly reached the epiphany and realized I couldn’t keep up with every single social network out there.
Great post, I am now a subscriber.
Wade Watson
September 10th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
9Fantastically good point, Charles. It’s gotten out of hand and there has to be a dropout. It’s worse than the TV set market a couple of years ago. You’d go to the store and have to choose between 5-6 technologies. The market didn’t like it and made a choice. The search engine market used to be pretty widely spread. People only have so much patience for choices, then they pick something and get on with their lives.
Tonie Konig
September 10th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
10I agree with you it will be a glorious day all the spin offs are getting very tedious..
Rick Wion
September 10th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
11While I agree that there is an oversupply of social media tools, I don’t know that there is a danger in this bubble besides wasted time. Maybe the prevalence of ADHD amongst tech and marketing folks has created this plethora of platforms? That being said, I think that anything beyond three social media platforms is not only tough to maintain, but pretty much useless. That is why (at least for now, you’ll only find me on Twitter, Facebook and Delicious.
Olivia
September 10th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
12Thank you, thank you, thank you for articulating something that has been in the back of my mind for a long time. Its not about how many social networking sites you can belong to, its about how you successfully exploit (in the positive sense) the sites that can really be beneficial for everyone involved.
You made me feel much better about refusing to join the “latest and greatest” social networking sites.
Rob Sellen
September 10th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
13Great post, part of a good series too. bonus.
Nicely put and I agree with that, although for some I would say YES try out all you can, I mean if you are the start of your online endeavours you need to KNOW which to use, which to dump.
What some do wrong, and I have been guilty of it, is keeping on using what clearly doesn’t help. :/
I think you would probably never need to use more than 4 or five different social sites.
They may well have differences, twitter is alot different to facebook, bloglog is alot different to digg, etc, use the best of each for YOU, not just what others say you should use.
Relationships… it’s ALWAYS been about that hasn’t it?
Social media is a great platform to build them, just don’t neglect them OR the relationships.
Great post, and thanks for sharing with us.
Take care,
Rob
Susan Coils
September 10th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
14I’ve no doubt your article will come as a shock to many of the rabbits out there Charles. But common sense should prevail. Spread yourself too thin, and you end up invisible!
Personally, I agree with Tonie - it’s all becoming a bit boring now. Is anyone actually still bothering to sign up to the latest, greatest, social networking sites?
Susan
Ray Baker
September 10th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
15G’day Charlie
That’s about the best article I can remember you writing. You’ve probably written better but this has hit the nail on the head.
People will decide whether our content is good, meaningful, helpful, entertaining etc. We should always be doing our best at that. The fruits have come to me this way.
For instance, I will now stumble this article so others will read it because of its value.
Social sites have their place but not as the ‘be all and end all’.
Christopher Phillips
September 10th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
16Hi Charles
It is so nice to see some common sense at last, your article is spot on.
I don’t think rabbits, as mentioned above, is the the right description, I see it more as lemmings being driven to that cliff in total desperation as a result of trying to earn a living on the Internet.
I blame the self appointed, so called, gurus who have peddled so much crap over the last 12 months glorifying the benefits of joining every social site on the planet. Most of them don’t have a clue what they are talking about…They just want to sell you some overpriced ebook that in most cases is not worth a cent.
I decided from the start that the advice was bad and spent my time doing other more constructive things. My advice for what it is worth is to identify and listen to genuine marketers like yourself and totally ignore the information coming from the less reputable sources. In fact why not do what I did and block all those emails coming at you day after day. At one stage I was getting over 200 per day! I put a stop to that. Now I get just quality information from a few genuine guys.
I am retired so I could spend all day and night on the social sites if I wanted to but no thanks that bubble will soon burst…..if it really ever existed.
I imagine that the majority of people struggling to find an opportunity online also have full time jobs so time is precious…so don’t waste it on the next “Eureka Email” that you get!
Regards
Chris
jon lyles
September 10th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
17Charles,
Great article. In the back of my mind this social networking thing seemed pointless but I wanted to see this for myself. I have a lot of connections on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn.
Take the number of friends or followers on any one network and the actual number of meaningful relationships is probably 1%.
I agree with all who say that twitter will survive. Not only because it has such a huge share of the micro-blogs out there but because the quality of the stuff published is actually pretty good. There’s a genius to the 140 character limit. Short, to the point, and gimme a link.
LinkedIn is almost totally pointless. I actually received a request for a reference from someone I don’t know and never spoke to and he wanted me to send the reference down the line where it would eventually get to my third degree connection… Ok, so a reference given to someone I don’t know sent to someone else I barely know who sends it to degrees further…. it’s all a waste because we are just strangers to each other.
Rangoo's Forum
September 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
18I have been feeling guilty for not being a silly rabbit and after reading your post I feel greatly relieved that I am on the right track.
Your post was posted in a forum by Sam Clark and I came here to read this post. This in itself proves your point.
You did not use an automated service to post in that forum. The quality of your post and its relevance to what people are going through has taken care of the promotion automation.
But I have a question…
Do we sell things to friends? I have made many friends at some of my regular hangouts but I never talk business to them.
I feel by pushing internet marketing into social media we have polluted the environment of our relationship with people.
Ferny Ceballos
September 11th, 2008 at 12:25 am
19@Rangoo’s Forum Usually people identify themselves as someone who is interested in certain things, so talking to business to business people about business, is fair game. But it’s always about providing value and demonstrating value.
That’s how you win in social media. If the content you are providing is powerful, those that are interested in what you’ve got will follow.
Also, joining niche social networks where just about everyone in that network is interested in what you’ve got, is the perfect place to market to like minded people. I’m an active member in a social community for network marketers, and it’s been a goldmine from a marketing perspective. But I don’t pitch my business, unless it’s via a signature or resource link on my profile.
95% of what I do is provide the most value I possibly can. You’ll attract associates and money to you this way, and everyone else is happy because of the value their received. Win-Win.
-Ferny
Marc Berry
September 11th, 2008 at 5:29 am
20I have been working in Social Media for the last couple of years and have just come across this series of posts. You have really hit it here Charles. Great reading and the fact they are so easily found on Google means quite a few others think so too!
Marc
George Manlangit
September 11th, 2008 at 6:39 am
21You’ve introduced a marketing term that is widely missed lately - REACH.
The guru’s have been harping about making people go to more S/N sites to create TRAFFIC. More bookmarking, profiles, etc, the more people will visit the sites being promoted. And I totally agree with them. It does create traffic but it does not create meaningful contribution to the people you are trying to REACH.
Same is true with blogs. You can see books (printed and ebooks) that promote monetization on blogs. What’s happening is that it blurs out the purpose of blogs - to share with readers your ideas, thoughts, knowledge on a subject matter that can become educational and sometimes entertaining - Edutainment. I don’t mind people monetizing their blogs but if it was the primary intent of the blog, then it is bound to fail. Specifically because of one simple reason - relevant content.
When I started Facebook to check it out, I ran across Mari Smith who gave me the idea on the true value of relationship building on social networks. It has been a different mindset for me since then.
In the end, one have to decide, do you want to spread yourself thin on these networks or do you want to be branded as someone on the field that you want to specialize on?
simone hardy
September 11th, 2008 at 7:38 am
22You hit the nail right on the head. I realized this a few social networks ago and took a step back and deleted those unnecessary accounts and am focusing on building relationships they way we should.
Charles Heflin
September 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am
23@Rangoo’s Forum
You said - “Do we sell things to friends? I have made many friends at some of my regular hangouts but I never talk business to them.”
When you are a contributing part of a niche or market then your friends who share that interest will find your BUY button without you having to shove it in their face. This is true for most Type 1 (social markets).
In Type 2 (non social) markets there is little to no conversation or conversational interest (paperclips, socks, ball bearings)… There is an entire different approach to social media with Type 2 products or services.
In either case, the people that you network with and provide value to will seek to buy from you because you are a trusted brand. Selling then becomes a simple proposition … just put a link to your catalog, offer, product, service, etc… on the sidebar of your blog.
Release free reports or industry reports (white papers) that include information about how your friends/followers can gain more value from you by buying something of high interest and value.
There are an infinite number of ways to sell to your friends (without selling) once you are trusted… Social networking (using social media) is all about establishing trust and building personal fans.
Recently I shared one (of many) strategies that we are currently using with good success here: http://www.charlesheflin.com/social-media-traffic-conversion/
Charles Heflin
September 11th, 2008 at 8:49 am
24@George Manlangit
Thank you for placing more focus on that… It’s a very important point!
REACH = Mind Share
The more mind share you have, the more reach you have. The more reach you have the more influence you have. The more influence you have, the more you are trusted and the more your influence spreads … automatically.
This REACH can also be translated into profit for your business.
Thank you for the comment George!
Charles Heflin
September 11th, 2008 at 8:54 am
25@Marc Berry
You said - “I have been working in Social Media for the last couple of years and have just come across this series of posts. You have really hit it here Charles. Great reading and the fact they are so easily found on Google means quite a few others think so too!”
This is another major point that I am trying to make in this series… What you have just stated shows a glimpse of what some are calling The New SEO … None of my high rankings were achieved through a focus on SEO … SEO happened automatically through crowdsourcing …. Readers of my content have spread the message, linked to it, shared it and it has been interesting to watch the positive effect of this in the SERPs … despite “nofollows” … SEO is melding from pure technical to a more social focus … technical meets social… The new SEO.
Interesting times are ahead for sure… Thank you for your comment.
Charles Heflin
September 11th, 2008 at 8:58 am
26@Jon Lyles
You said - “it’s all a waste because we are just strangers to each other” …
Perfect point … If you are doing anything in social media other than networking with your target audience then you are either implementing short-term (short sighted) strategies or completely wasting your time.
Thank you for that!
Charles Heflin
September 11th, 2008 at 9:01 am
27@Christopher Phillips
You said - “In fact why not do what I did and block all those emails coming at you day after day. ”
That is an awesome piece of advice and highly effective… The moment you unsubscribe from all those email lists will be a defining moment when you can actually begin working on YOUR business.
Thank you for the kind words in your comment … I appreciate it.
Dave Saunders
September 11th, 2008 at 11:53 am
28Great post Charles! I started out with a “kid in a candy store” approach and quickly found that not only could I not keep up with all the sites, but most of the sites provided no real benefit from my participation. Focused effort, coming from a place of your core-being and relevance is the only way to go.
Warner Carter
September 11th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
29Charles
“It’s all about relationships… PERIOD!”
That says it all. Everything else is superfluous nick nacks.
And yes you can waste a lot of time. Part of the problem is just being motivated by liking new stuff. I always have to better manage my time, stop wandering around and get busy on something more immediately productive. So many things are interesting. Time is the most valuable thing there is. 20 Billion dollars cannot buy back the minute that just went by a minute ago.
Malika Duke
September 11th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
30Hey Charles,
Insiteful, well written article here! Thank you for posting it. I particularly like your mention of the “new seo”. I have read another successful blogger who posted an expanded explanation of how he built his business using that as his primary principle.
Said he “writes for people first, machines second”. Being on social networks and trying to trick people in to clicking on your stuff is when you get the low converting traffic.
When your on too many social networks you feel the urge to substitute quantity for quality.
I’m actually reading this because of a forum post from someone who I have met on a social network and have granted unlimited access to my “mind share” because I know like and trust him… Thanks Ferny!
Malika
Joerg Rauh
September 11th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
31This goes to show that one’s feelings are sometimes more accurate than the thinking. Years ago I had to choose XING or LinkEdlin and kept asking why. And then the same guy that met me in XING wanted to meet me over in LinkEdlin too. He couldn’t explain why, I dind’t see why and so I didn’t pursue it.
With other social media that everybody is talking about I felt the same again: just uneasy.
Until today I found it really confusing,not knowing where to go and why and how to avoid duplicate work.
That’s why I’m so glad you spoke up and gave the problem a name. Thereby you are helping me greatly in deciding where to build my nest.
Thank you for such a clear and brave article!
Leanne Boyd
September 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
32For a very long time, I’ve put most of the ’social networking’ into the same handbasket that quickly took off and grew into David’s Goliath, with the onset of global, new media. And that is MULTI-TASKING. Now where will this get you? You end up wearing 80 hats and like the proverbial kitchen with too many cooks…. probably none of the recipes come out well. Multi-tasking is a myth. And successfully creating “community” that is effective, honest, and FULL - on more than a couple of community sites - is also a Myth. Thank you, thank you for this posting, and the entire series. I agree with you that the bubble will soon burst. At that point, which will survive? Actually, I think that many of the communities will survive. Each one has a core group who’ve discovered the sense of community that you describe, and that each site claimed they would give. If that core group is large enough, chances are they will stay dedicated. And the ones who’ve rabbited in, probably with the pipe dream that it will make them Zillion$, will drop off. No different than the setting of the Forums…. some have thrived and are gangbusters, and others sorta just invisibled out. It indeed is about community and, like pointed out above, the primary GIFT is the sharing. It all resides in thought, and not the almighty wallet. Another part of that is FOCUS. And, with multi-tasking or multi-social-networking…. we all still have 24/7 and it just won’t work.
Jesse Logan
September 11th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
33I fell for the one that claimed it would share a million dollars with all it’s new members. I think it was called web 2.0 or web2web.
Last time I checked my affiliate link it was dead!
Jamison Palmer
September 11th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
34Good post! That is exactly right and is why we are seeing some of this new technology beginning to emerge. There are a number of companies out there attempting to tie everything together. Obviously, Google, Plaxo, and some of the other players out there understand these issues and are working on figuring out a solution.
Jamison
alexander alaric
September 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pm
35CHrales,
First time reader and I agree with your point a bout focus. I was just talking with Chris Lang the other day about this topic.
How many people can you stay in direct contact with everyday? Maybe 50.
How many 2nd tier friends can you have in say MySpace or Facebook. That can be in the thousands. But committing time to all these different sites is a waste of time and a frustration of effort when you discover you can’t keep up.
Rick Butts
September 12th, 2008 at 1:04 am
36Excellent insights about social marketing.
It has yet to be proven to me that much of any actual money is being made via SM (not sado-masochism) outside of stuff about how to do social media.
It still appears to me that ranking in the search engines is about 99 kazillion times more effective for ecommerce and niche marketing.
Social media seems to be a serioius time suck except for Internet marketers and publicity hounds - like me! LOL
I’m looking into billboards and little tiny ads in newspapers.
Rick Butts
the devil's in the details
September 12th, 2008 at 4:17 am
37Hi Charles guys n gals … excellence is the best word to use on this blog great content and very easy usable information this page alone just blows me away never mind the current wisdom message your letting us in on … thanks mate …. your a star
All my best to you and your knowledge
Phillip Skinner
Charles Heflin
September 12th, 2008 at 7:02 am
38@Rick Butts
Ranking in the search engines is a nice side benefit of engaging in social media if it is done correctly (of course).
We have several niches where we are making money (through case studies) in niches ranging from violin lessons to heart disease… It’s just a matter of how you network with people. SM itself is not a marketing platform but a networking platform which CAN lead people into your sales process IF you have networked correctly.
Thanks for stopping by…
- Charles
RichardKannegieser.com » Trimming your Social Media Accounts
September 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
39[...] occasionally, and gave them nowhere near the attention needed to build relationships. Plus as the Social Media Technology bubble is going to POP soon anyway and alot of those networks will die [...]
Robert Worstell
September 12th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
40Charles,
Good post again. Brings up other questions.
Alexander raises a good point. Facebook and others were originally developed to keep track of existing friends and collegues. Strengthening the “weak tie.” Facebook opened up to the larger public and evolved somewhat.
Conventional media’s legacy is the broadcast method - shotgun, one-way communication.
These two could marry, conceivably, through social media - but not all social media. Scobelizer claims over 35,000 followers on Twitter. So any comment from him creates a ripple effect, depending on it’s perceived value to that community. Not so with Facebook - although that’s a possibility with other plugins.
Twitter builds exceedingly weak ties. I’ve seen people drop connections over a single comment on politics - Scobelizer figures he lost a thousand off one tweet yesterday. In this media, your trust is developed by people following you. And if they are following a thousand or more on Twitter, you are entering into Gladwell’s “Tipping Point” scene - as they can’t track individual trust as well as you can on Facebook.
So, again, we see that the generality of “social media” isn’t true on all levels.
The third point is that Facebook looks to have achieved a stable mass - not growing so much, but not particularly shrinking. Other new social media are being developed with extreme long tail niches involved - and so would only need several handfuls to be stable. So whether a social media disappears will be based on it’s inherent value as a communication nexus for it’s participants. And competition. Twitter may or may not make it - but it’s pretty poor for building trust due to it’s nature, unless you only follow a handful of key people.
Again, Gladwell’s “Tipping Point” covers the mavens, connectors, and sneezers who make up social media and transfer an “outbreak” from one social media to another…
Shilander Marketing
September 12th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
41Super post! Heard about in on one of my favorite social media sites
Quality is defintely better than quanity!
In the USA people are stiil have the mass media mindset.
Relationships are what matter : )
Bruce Shilander
CEO Shilander Marketing
Austin, Texas
http://shilander.net
Shilander Marketing
September 12th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
42Social Media site I heard about this post
is in my signature….Thanks again,
Bruce Shilander
CEO Shilander Marketing
Austin, Texas
http://www.betternetworker.com/user/273
Anna
September 13th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
43Thank you Charles. This is another excellent post on Social Media. Your series has already answered so many questions and changed my outlook on social networking. In fact I have started to actually utilize social networking for the first time. And I also understand the distractions, shortcuts, and pitfalls so that I can steer clear of them and ensure my friends do the same.
Social media is about people, not links. It’s about sharing valuable information, forming friends or forming business relationships, making yourself known, two-way communication, exchange of ideas, and its also about people helping each other online. In the long run it could help your SEO and your sales, but not necessarily through stats or backlinks. More friends means more people to rate your lenses or comment on your blogs and that means better SERP positions as well. For example. More business relationships means more guest posting and more joint-venture opportunities. I think I am catching on here - finally!
Thank you for making this subject clear for the first time. The funny thing is, it was clear from the beginning. The social sites themselves stated their purposes. It just got muddied in a bunch of Internet Marketing hogwash.
Shilander Marketing
September 13th, 2008 at 11:08 pm
44repost: correction
Super post! Heard about in on one of my favorite social media sites
Quality is definitely better than quantity!
In the USA people stiil have the “mass media” mindset.
Relationships are what matter : )
Bruce Shilander
CEO Shilander Marketing
Austin, Texas
http://shilander.net
Zara
September 14th, 2008 at 12:10 am
45Hi Charles,
I see social networks rather like i did forums now, before social networks were about.
I had a Russian Company spam my list of contacts on facebook which nearly got me banned - that really put me off facebook for a while, but it does still have its uses.
The reason I have a twitter and a plurk account is because - if you make use of multi updaters - like hellotxt.com it’s worth the effort - you can usually add blog RSS to most profiles filling your profiles across multiple sites with your MAIN blog - that way if your buddy is on plurk they will catch your message there, if they are on twitter there, pounce,facebook, bebo etc. hellotxt updates all these channels (and more) with a microblog - that you only need to write out once - the idea is that all these mini sites lead back to your main blog. they are all on different servers so - i shuldn’t think it would be seen as spam - I mean affiliate program code is replicated content and that seems to do alright for some!
I agree that you don’t need to be constantly going from one site to the other to “play” The idea of social networks (to me) is to glean information and trends - the lists we build on them - I’m not sure yet how to treat them so I’ve gone back to “old skool” list building, as at least you know that if someone signs up to your newsletter they can’t complain when you contact them!
There are folk out there that would love to be proved “right” about web 2.0 all being a bunch of rubbish - I can’t help but think that the point is being missed
- as lookingagain to my “forum” comparsion - do web marketers join every single forum on the Internet ? - Answer - NO! you could spend your whole lifetime just signing up to them without ever posting - there are so many - the trick - is to try a selection of them out - then lay your bets (or stats!) on which ones you want to back with your time and effort in exchange for return on income.
Niche marketing can be done via social networks and forums - it simply a case of directing your visitors to the presales area you wish them to gather at - I’m using attraction marketing now and it seems to be a lot easier using that method!
cheers
Zara
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Gary McElwain
September 15th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
47Thanks for validating my thoughts on the subject. And I especially like your comparison as a wide brush stroke and just thinning your paint. As a former aircraft painter if my paint was too thin I got no coverage and had to work twice as much to cover my canvas.
Even with automation to do the bookmarking, it still takes time to create the relationship to develop the customer. And isn’t that what we’re all looking to do.
Gary McElwain
Sharon
September 16th, 2008 at 9:04 am
48Hey Charles,
I actually didn’t do all the social media rabbitting simply because I realized:
1 - I don’t like it when strange people leave links on my social profiles with no real message. And I usually go online in social sites to interact with my friends, and have a real conversation.
2 - I like receiving and giving feedback on actual stuff I’ve read or seen.
These two lead me to conclude that as a marketer I wouldn’t have enough time to do all of this if I were to sign up on 100 different social sites.
So…this was a good post that was a long time coming I think.
Thank you for putting it so clearly.
George
September 16th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
49Charles,
Excellent post, tried to add to furl but addthis was way too slow. I’ll just share with friends.
Thanks agan,
George
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October 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
53As the saying goes, “it’s that 20% focus, where your gold mine is, not the 80% of running like a headless chicken.” LOL.
Dude, this is one great article. Thank you for educating the masses! I so needed someone to write and say this. Thank you very much. Definitely going to pass this to a lot of people in my list to read cause for sure, many are using lots of different platforms and wondering why they so busy but no result.
Great article and valuable.
Jeffrey
October 19th, 2008 at 3:58 am
54Yup..I don’t join much social network and only pay more attention to those that really matters like, youtube, twitter, facebook.
CVann
October 19th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
55Thanks Charles for breaking down this ROI thing. It made all the difference in the world for me. I will be looking out for my great articles from you. I have alot of work ahead of me. However, it will be worth it.
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