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		<title>By: Clint Maher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Maher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 05:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and a lesson learn to help me get back on track. Provide people with massive value and they will always, always come back. Perfect sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and a lesson learn to help me get back on track. Provide people with massive value and they will always, always come back. Perfect sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea is brilliant. However, I must disagree with this "Link building to increase search rankings". Sometimes you just CANNOT get hundreds of quality links. Sometimes you just CANNOT get positions of those who PAY for links. So... link building is necessary. Not for every page of your website. But be honest... If you know that the page "A" makes great sales or whatever (in terms of revenue), and also if you know that this page is hidden somewhere on 3rd page of SERP, then you simply must do something in order to make it top5. It will generate more revenue...

Naturally, focusing on people really works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is brilliant. However, I must disagree with this &#8220;Link building to increase search rankings&#8221;. Sometimes you just CANNOT get hundreds of quality links. Sometimes you just CANNOT get positions of those who PAY for links. So&#8230; link building is necessary. Not for every page of your website. But be honest&#8230; If you know that the page &#8220;A&#8221; makes great sales or whatever (in terms of revenue), and also if you know that this page is hidden somewhere on 3rd page of SERP, then you simply must do something in order to make it top5. It will generate more revenue&#8230;</p>
<p>Naturally, focusing on people really works.</p>
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		<title>By: shutters</title>
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		<dc:creator>shutters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Internet marketers that don’t understand the point of this post generally busy themselves with traffic tactics, link building, old school SEO tactics, spammy blog commenting, etc. Most of their effort is spent on self centered marketing tactics for the purpose of gaining revenue for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Internet marketers that don’t understand the point of this post generally busy themselves with traffic tactics, link building, old school SEO tactics, spammy blog commenting, etc. Most of their effort is spent on self centered marketing tactics for the purpose of gaining revenue for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Girls mats</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girls mats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post !!!But we will never implement it. Everyone who comes online wanting to make money as quickly as possible. when the money doesn’t come in as quickly as expected we jump from one scheme to another still hoping that we will hit the jackpot.
Well, i have decided to, first of all, provide value. All other things will follow. That is the ultimate way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post !!!But we will never implement it. Everyone who comes online wanting to make money as quickly as possible. when the money doesn’t come in as quickly as expected we jump from one scheme to another still hoping that we will hit the jackpot.<br />
Well, i have decided to, first of all, provide value. All other things will follow. That is the ultimate way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Vera Powell</title>
		<link>http://www.charlesheflin.com/internet-marketing-business/comment-page-1#comment-6033</link>
		<dc:creator>Vera Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, 

I want to personally thank you for taking the time to write about this important topic of discussion. You have 'been there and done that,' and I really appreciate your honesty in sharing what you've learned along the way. It's the difference between short term strategies and long term strategies. And as you stated, "When you engage in short term strategies, you build nothing." Just as seasons change, Internet marketing and online social media is changing as well. Those who want to spend their time creating long-term value will, and those who don't will harvest the consequences. Freedom of CHOICE - It's really that simple. 

To your success!

Vera Powell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, </p>
<p>I want to personally thank you for taking the time to write about this important topic of discussion. You have &#8216;been there and done that,&#8217; and I really appreciate your honesty in sharing what you&#8217;ve learned along the way. It&#8217;s the difference between short term strategies and long term strategies. And as you stated, &#8220;When you engage in short term strategies, you build nothing.&#8221; Just as seasons change, Internet marketing and online social media is changing as well. Those who want to spend their time creating long-term value will, and those who don&#8217;t will harvest the consequences. Freedom of CHOICE - It&#8217;s really that simple. </p>
<p>To your success!</p>
<p>Vera Powell</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought The Master Plan as a standalone product and I was very happy with the purchase.  I think it is easier for people to buy a one-time item then a membership commitment, and if that purchase turns out to be worthwhile, it builds trust and it is easier to decide on a membership later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought The Master Plan as a standalone product and I was very happy with the purchase.  I think it is easier for people to buy a one-time item then a membership commitment, and if that purchase turns out to be worthwhile, it builds trust and it is easier to decide on a membership later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Tanny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Tanny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I started with the Master Plan too, and was a bit confused at first why that project seemed to have been set aside, but now I get it.    

Like Charles says, The Master Plan and social media marketing are really very complementary, part of an integrated system.  One deals with on site factors, the other with off site factors.

It's possible the sales sites don't fully convey the relationship between the two ideas.   One solution might be to dump the Master Plan sales pages, and fold the Master Plan in to the social media membership.   

I haven't completed the social media course work yet, so it's possible this has already been done, and I'm just not there yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started with the Master Plan too, and was a bit confused at first why that project seemed to have been set aside, but now I get it.    </p>
<p>Like Charles says, The Master Plan and social media marketing are really very complementary, part of an integrated system.  One deals with on site factors, the other with off site factors.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible the sales sites don&#8217;t fully convey the relationship between the two ideas.   One solution might be to dump the Master Plan sales pages, and fold the Master Plan in to the social media membership.   </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t completed the social media course work yet, so it&#8217;s possible this has already been done, and I&#8217;m just not there yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Heflin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Heflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 14:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@David Lee,

I don't have any negativity toward building inbound links... Where do you get that from?

I have negativity toward building short-term business using tactics that are geared to game established systems.

The Master Plan is not about building inbound links... It is about building a web site structure which allows search engines to index and crawl your content efficiently. 

Social media content syndication is the answer to building "natural" inbound links which is the next step after implementing The Master Plan. Your statement that this is a bunch of hype is a statement of ignorance. Not that you're ignorant, you just don't have a clue... yet.

I have not turned my back on The Master Plan ... I have simply built on top of it by moving to the next part of the equation ... inbound links, traffic, action and sales.

Sorry you have an apparent animosity toward me which is partly my fault... I tend to move in directions that are not immediately obvious but are always geared toward progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David Lee,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any negativity toward building inbound links&#8230; Where do you get that from?</p>
<p>I have negativity toward building short-term business using tactics that are geared to game established systems.</p>
<p>The Master Plan is not about building inbound links&#8230; It is about building a web site structure which allows search engines to index and crawl your content efficiently. </p>
<p>Social media content syndication is the answer to building &#8220;natural&#8221; inbound links which is the next step after implementing The Master Plan. Your statement that this is a bunch of hype is a statement of ignorance. Not that you&#8217;re ignorant, you just don&#8217;t have a clue&#8230; yet.</p>
<p>I have not turned my back on The Master Plan &#8230; I have simply built on top of it by moving to the next part of the equation &#8230; inbound links, traffic, action and sales.</p>
<p>Sorry you have an apparent animosity toward me which is partly my fault&#8230; I tend to move in directions that are not immediately obvious but are always geared toward progress.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,

I guess I don't understand your negativity toward building in-bound links.  Is this not what you outlined in The Master Plan II which was released not too long ago (1 yr or so)?  When I analyze the competition in virtually any market, it seems to me that in-bound links are still king of the road.

Frankly, I think much of this social media marketing is just a bunch of hype, and the herd mentality of the IM space is eating it up.

Sorry this is not another feel good post for you, but I question why you've turned your back on The Master Plan so quickly.  It still works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand your negativity toward building in-bound links.  Is this not what you outlined in The Master Plan II which was released not too long ago (1 yr or so)?  When I analyze the competition in virtually any market, it seems to me that in-bound links are still king of the road.</p>
<p>Frankly, I think much of this social media marketing is just a bunch of hype, and the herd mentality of the IM space is eating it up.</p>
<p>Sorry this is not another feel good post for you, but I question why you&#8217;ve turned your back on The Master Plan so quickly.  It still works for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Heflin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Heflin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 17:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin,

Your site looks very good and you could easily for what Seth Godin calls a Tribe where you can use online social platforms to rally a tribe together for your cause.

- Charles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin,</p>
<p>Your site looks very good and you could easily for what Seth Godin calls a Tribe where you can use online social platforms to rally a tribe together for your cause.</p>
<p>- Charles</p>
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		<title>By: Kolin Djastirel</title>
		<link>http://www.charlesheflin.com/internet-marketing-business/comment-page-1#comment-3893</link>
		<dc:creator>Kolin Djastirel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Black hat strategies never focus on people. If you never focus on people, you’re in a short term business. Some may argue that empires have been built on black hat strategies. Show me one that did not have to re-invest man hours and revenue to keep what they have and I will eat my words."
Believe, you don't know about REAL black hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Black hat strategies never focus on people. If you never focus on people, you’re in a short term business. Some may argue that empires have been built on black hat strategies. Show me one that did not have to re-invest man hours and revenue to keep what they have and I will eat my words.&#8221;<br />
Believe, you don&#8217;t know about REAL black hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that without catering to people (customers), you are doomed to fail.

That said... when we launched our first, original site about two weeks ago, our whole focus is on not only people, but specific people- the brave men &#38; women of our (U.S.) military.

It's a blog-driven, charity-based site dedicated to their stories and testimonials of how the military made them better people: strengthened their characters by making them better leaders/organizers, etc.  In exchange for their time to submit their stories of gratitude, we promote their businesses/current ventures (should they have any).

In fact, three of our first five stories will be from fellow IM-ers who had served our country.

By paying tribute to them, it's kinda my way of giving back.  I am so grateful for them taking the time to send me stories that I am even 'not' marketing tyhe audience/readers.
There will be no autoresponder to opt-in, so no e-mail marketing to the readers will occur.  I have over 1250 other domains that I will be building into sites that I can manage e-mail  marketing campaigns.

That is not to say that I will not earn revenue  from the site.  I have one tab labeled "Our Thanks" that will have all my goods &#38; services that I am affiliated with.  Even still, a good portion of the money earned from any of these goods will go to charity: the Purple Heart, the USO, etc.  So, come holiday time, come on over and visit us to do some shopping and help out a good cause at the same time.

Best,

-K
http://www.for-the-troops.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that without catering to people (customers), you are doomed to fail.</p>
<p>That said&#8230; when we launched our first, original site about two weeks ago, our whole focus is on not only people, but specific people- the brave men &amp; women of our (U.S.) military.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a blog-driven, charity-based site dedicated to their stories and testimonials of how the military made them better people: strengthened their characters by making them better leaders/organizers, etc.  In exchange for their time to submit their stories of gratitude, we promote their businesses/current ventures (should they have any).</p>
<p>In fact, three of our first five stories will be from fellow IM-ers who had served our country.</p>
<p>By paying tribute to them, it&#8217;s kinda my way of giving back.  I am so grateful for them taking the time to send me stories that I am even &#8216;not&#8217; marketing tyhe audience/readers.<br />
There will be no autoresponder to opt-in, so no e-mail marketing to the readers will occur.  I have over 1250 other domains that I will be building into sites that I can manage e-mail  marketing campaigns.</p>
<p>That is not to say that I will not earn revenue  from the site.  I have one tab labeled &#8220;Our Thanks&#8221; that will have all my goods &amp; services that I am affiliated with.  Even still, a good portion of the money earned from any of these goods will go to charity: the Purple Heart, the USO, etc.  So, come holiday time, come on over and visit us to do some shopping and help out a good cause at the same time.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>-K<br />
<a href="http://www.for-the-troops.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.for-the-troops.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had some clients talk about "what if" in our initial meeting. I can tell when they talk about "what if" they are starting on the wrong foot for their online venture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had some clients talk about &#8220;what if&#8221; in our initial meeting. I can tell when they talk about &#8220;what if&#8221; they are starting on the wrong foot for their online venture.</p>
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		<title>By: Trick or Treat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trick or Treat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Charles readers posters one n all ... Its all about experience I can remember when I started my first self employed off line business I needed a truck to do my new business and boy I couldn't wait to get my name on the side of this van ... 

I can still feel the buzz I got from that action ... but as time went on I changed that van for a newer model and suddenly the name on the side had no meaning to me simply because over a time span I had built myself a reputation for good workmanship and trustworthy and recommendation's brought me new customers in their droves so much so I had to employ more tradesmen buy extra vans then guess what the whole fun went out of it 

All of a sudden one day it dawned on me this excitement I first felt … had just become a run of the mill business with more than its share of pressures … then one day I woke up with “who and what am I doing all this for” …. Oh yes I had become cynical the excitement had well gone ... and that’s the trouble with the web ... to many people who have forgot their roots have become too cynical with those who don't yet no the rules of the game... 

All newbie’s need to learn from there mistakes get over the excitement of seeing there work on the world wide web for all to see then understand it’s a business simply because there is no new fundamentals in good business practices on or offline … it just takes some of us longer to learn that valuable lesson … the internet has been tamed there is a SEO police force checking on every ones moves just like the tax man does more in off line businesses … (but that will change one day soon to the online world too lol)  see cynicism again lol … 

All my best to you and your happiness
Phillip Skinner</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Charles readers posters one n all &#8230; Its all about experience I can remember when I started my first self employed off line business I needed a truck to do my new business and boy I couldn&#8217;t wait to get my name on the side of this van &#8230; </p>
<p>I can still feel the buzz I got from that action &#8230; but as time went on I changed that van for a newer model and suddenly the name on the side had no meaning to me simply because over a time span I had built myself a reputation for good workmanship and trustworthy and recommendation&#8217;s brought me new customers in their droves so much so I had to employ more tradesmen buy extra vans then guess what the whole fun went out of it </p>
<p>All of a sudden one day it dawned on me this excitement I first felt … had just become a run of the mill business with more than its share of pressures … then one day I woke up with “who and what am I doing all this for” …. Oh yes I had become cynical the excitement had well gone &#8230; and that’s the trouble with the web &#8230; to many people who have forgot their roots have become too cynical with those who don&#8217;t yet no the rules of the game&#8230; </p>
<p>All newbie’s need to learn from there mistakes get over the excitement of seeing there work on the world wide web for all to see then understand it’s a business simply because there is no new fundamentals in good business practices on or offline … it just takes some of us longer to learn that valuable lesson … the internet has been tamed there is a SEO police force checking on every ones moves just like the tax man does more in off line businesses … (but that will change one day soon to the online world too lol)  see cynicism again lol … </p>
<p>All my best to you and your happiness<br />
Phillip Skinner</p>
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		<title>By: James Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Charles

I totaly agree with your post. There's way to many so called marketers out there that
would rather use black hat methods for personal gain with no regard fpr the community.As you mentioned theirs days are numbered with these pratices. But then again there are those who do nothing but try to find ways to beat the system.

Thanks
James</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Charles</p>
<p>I totaly agree with your post. There&#8217;s way to many so called marketers out there that<br />
would rather use black hat methods for personal gain with no regard fpr the community.As you mentioned theirs days are numbered with these pratices. But then again there are those who do nothing but try to find ways to beat the system.</p>
<p>Thanks<br />
James</p>
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